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[05:01] <Ambrose4803> sup
[05:01] <LSCStealthNinja> HAHAHHA! I DID IT!
[05:01] <LSCStealthNinja> MOO HAHAHA
[05:01] <1999bug> xD
[05:02] <LSCStealthNinja> Ooh....
[05:02] <LSCStealthNinja> Cool... Stars!
[05:02] <Ambrose4803> so whats happening
[05:02] <1999bug> Hiya, Ambrose.
[05:02] <LSCStealthNinja> Hey Ambrose
[05:02] <Ambrose4803> thi
[05:02] <1999bug> LSC just injected himself with an evil virus. =P
[05:02] <1999bug> Jk
[05:02] <1999bug> xD
[05:02] <1999bug> =P
[05:02] <1999bug> Or did he ??
[05:02] <Ambrose4803> hi
[05:02] <LSCStealthNinja> :P 
[05:02] <LSCStealthNinja> Cool!
[05:02] <Ambrose4803> THEY SHOULD ADD MORE SERPENTINE TRIBES TO NINJAGO
[05:03] <LSCStealthNinja> Ambrose, Warn 1, Caps
[05:03] <Ambrose4803> wha....?
[05:03] <LSCStealthNinja> Please don't Capitalize a whole sentence
[05:03] <Ambrose4803> what?
[05:03] <Ambrose4803> im outta here
[05:03] <Ambrose4803> i did not know
[05:04] <LSCStealthNinja> :/ 
[05:04] <Ambrose4803> dont give me a warning i did not know
[05:04] <1999bug> <.< You joined months ago, you should have read the rules by now.5
[05:04] <1999bug> [[Brickipedia:Chat]]
[05:04] <Ambrose4803> umm......
[05:04] <LSCStealthNinja> You still have a Warning, no matter how many times you leave
[05:05] <LSCStealthNinja> 2 More and you will be banned.
[05:05] <Ambrose4803> thats too harsh
[05:05] <LSCStealthNinja> Not at all.
[05:05] <LSCStealthNinja> If you read the rules, you should know not to do that.
[05:05] <Ambrose4803> lets just move on
[05:05] <LSCStealthNinja> Exactly. Thank you.

Seriously? Also, again, warnings aren't some three-strike system.

[09:22] <CzechMate> Insulting us won't help ;) 
[09:22] <Clone gunner commander jedi> Banned or kicked?
[09:22] <CzechMate> Kicked
[09:23] <Power Jim> Say banned for trolling.
[09:23] <Clone gunner commander jedi> Do they know that they could just reload?
[09:23] <CzechMate> Idk, idc :P 
[09:24] <Power Jim> So your not actually going to give him a ban? :P 
[09:24] <CzechMate> Nah
[09:24] <CzechMate> Too many bans given by me
[09:25] <Clone gunner commander jedi> Can I ban?
[09:25] <CzechMate> Sure, sure.
[09:27] <Clone gunner commander jedi> Done
[09:27] <CzechMate> Lol, Ambrose messaged moi :P 
[09:27] <Power Jim> What did he say?
[09:28] <Clone gunner commander jedi> "why do you keep on banning me from chat for unfair reasons....what do you have against me.....first you say i was being racist just because i said i didn't like a certain country (which is not being racist, discrimination about a race not a country is racist) then i told cgcj to stop being negative and you ban me?"
[09:28] <Legoboy9373> Hi 6
[09:28] <Legoboy9373> o/ 
[09:28] <CzechMate> CGCJ, can you message him back?
[09:28] <Legoboy9373> Czech o/ 
[09:28] <CzechMate> (and say "czech sends his most sincerest apologies for you insulting a mod ;) ")
[09:29] <Power Jim> :P 
[09:29] <Power Jim> You'll just aggravate him more.
[09:29] <Clone gunner commander jedi> Sure
[09:29] <CzechMate> Meh
[09:29] <CzechMate> That's why being a mod is fun.
[09:30] <CzechMate> We technically aren't doing anything wrong.
[09:30] <CzechMate> We're "playing along".

I didn't remove rights just yet because these two are admins. But seriously? If this happens again the admin bit is gone. ajr 00:42, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

  • LSC= Support of removal, obviously. CGCJ=Neutral just because this is the first I have seen it so I'll decide later. Czech=Support of removal! I don't like being called out of touch Czech... It really does hurt my feelings and frankly disrespects what I

try to do. Admins look at the four screenshots to see what I mean about Czech taking his power to the extreme without warnings: [1] klagoerRollinglaughingsmileyname that user 01:47, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

  • I don't see anything wrong in those four files... Please explain. ajr 01:56, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

Okay. Here we go, in order of it being brought up: I have very little problem with LSC's actions. Different mods have different styles, and the whole "three strikes and yer out" system was a rule for quite a long time, even if it isn't anymore (in fact, I generally warn and kick along those lines myself). He was a bit brusque, but it's no big deal.
Clone: I don't see any problem with him... I don't actually know what the offense that caused the kick/ban was, but I see no extreme actions from him.
Czech... Well, that's a different story. "We technically aren't doing anything wrong." Rules are rules, no matter who breaks them. I'd give him a second chance, as I've had no problem with his adminship before now. However... It does seem a pretty big deal. Honestly, it's a bit worrisome.
@Ajr: Agreed, please explain, Mr. M. Those all seem perfectly legitimate situations (except for caps abuse, which is a minor rule anyhow, that no admins ever seem to follow...) -Cligra Join the redlink war!

  • I don't really think LSC's rights should be removed- I don't think it was very good of him to do what he did as he used capitals just a handful of lines above, but aren't you meant to give warnings for capitals? Anyway, for this incident alone, I don't see it as a reason to remove rights. CGCJ- pretty unimpressed with him right now, mainly because he did leave the message mentioned in the log on Ambrose's talk page. Reason to remove admin rights... maybe not, but again, very unhappy, and if it happened while the URR was going on, I would probably have changed my vote from neutral to oppose. CzechMate- I see him as the main perpetrator in the second log- mocking users after they block them is clearly wrong and an abuse of power, and there was not really even being a reason to ban him in the first place. WAY too many incidents like this surround Czech, and it's a constant thing with him. It's not that I dislike CM, and a lot of the time I think he's a great asset to the community, but in no way do I think he's responsible enough to have chatmod rights, and definitely not admin. NightblazeSaber 03:02, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

Considering I was there during this so called incident with LSC, I have a different opinion on the matter. While the 3 strikes thing isn't allowed, most moderators have a tendency to use it because they already have a habit of it or were never told not to do so. Its not like we've ever had a full-blown meeting telling us not to do it. I've even caught admins doing this. Besides, he explained afterward why there was a warning gave out which is what we're supposed to do. And if you thought he was being harsh, you are uh.. sensitive at the very least. Personally, I find that I was being harsher than him. I'd also like to mention that "You still have a Warning, no matter how many times you leave" was an indirect quote from the rules page and was said because Ambrose left for a short period of time to evade the ban... I'm not sure why joining and leaving isn't shown in the logs. I find it quite cruel to even consider the removal of such a kind user's rights, let alone executing it. Please reconsider the removal, he doesn't deserve it, this is more of a misconception. βʊʛ™ Ʈҩƪҡ - Customs 03:08, July 17, 2012 (UTC)


To clarify, I removed his rights because I consider the warn 1/2/3 system to be very cruel on the users in chat. It makes it seem like anything they do is just a step towards a ban, even typing a few words in caps. A simple "please don't yell" would have sufficed, not a detailed explanation of how the person will be banned after two more. (wikipedia:WP:BITE) Perhaps complete removal of his flag wasn't warranted - I did that after reviewing the whole case with the three above mentioned users, so I was a bit annoyed at that point and might have been too harsh. I will be glad to reinstate the chatmod bit to him once he sees this thread, and preferably leaves his thoughts on it.

It's the "Can I ban?" question that gets me with CGCJ's role in this. He wasn't being polite to the banned user in this case, and having mods volunteering to ban people is not what I like to see. ajr 03:54, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

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